Ibanez Super 70 pickup?

[GitFiddler]

I've got one here in a box of stuff. Meters at 8 ohms exactly. What
are the characteristics of the Super 70s? Would this be a neck pup at
that ohm value? Or is that a matter of taste?

[Squier]

Post by GitFiddler
I've got one here in a box of stuff. Meters at 8 ohms exactly. What
are the characteristics of the Super 70s? Would this be a neck pup at
that ohm value? Or is that a matter of taste?

those are actually highly valued pups by some people.
they give a classic 'biting' type of PAF sound and it
was the signature sound of Ibanez the 1980's Ibanez guitars
that had these humbuckers installed. They have a big airy
sound to them. No - I wasn't around back then but I do
have personal knowledge of them as I have played them
installed into Ibanez Roadstar guitars.
We had them in the bridge position with 2 single coils
in the neck and middle - so they were part of a 'fat' strat setup.
great bridge pickup in a fat strat and balanced out nicely
with slightly overwound single coils.

[Tony Done]

Post by GitFiddler
I've got one here in a box of stuff. Meters at 8 ohms exactly. What
are the characteristics of the Super 70s? Would this be a neck pup at
that ohm value? Or is that a matter of taste?

I don't know anything about that particular pickup, but if it is an old
Ibanez, I would assume it is good enough to be worth the effort of trying
out. You would generally use a lower output pickup at the neck than at the
bridge, so this could be used either as a PAF style bridge pickup, or as a
neck pickup with a hot bridge pickup.

Some pickups have/had different pole spacings for the neck and bridge. You
could check that by comparing them with, say, a modern Seymour Duncan, which
will have the same pole spacing for neck and bridge. If it has wider poles
it would be better as a neck pickup, if narrower, as a bridge pickup.
However, I think that any failure of the poles to line up with the strings
will be small enough that it can be compensated by adjusting the pole
height, so that either type could be used in either position.

Tony D

[Peter Madsen]

Post by Tony Done

Post by GitFiddler
I've got one here in a box of stuff. Meters at 8 ohms exactly. What
are the characteristics of the Super 70s? Would this be a neck pup at
that ohm value? Or is that a matter of taste?

I don't know anything about that particular pickup, but if it is an old
Ibanez, I would assume it is good enough to be worth the effort of trying
out. You would generally use a lower output pickup at the neck than at the
bridge, so this could be used either as a PAF style bridge pickup, or as a
neck pickup with a hot bridge pickup.
Some pickups have/had different pole spacings for the neck and bridge. You
could check that by comparing them with, say, a modern Seymour Duncan, which
will have the same pole spacing for neck and bridge. If it has wider poles
it would be better as a neck pickup, if narrower, as a bridge pickup.
However, I think that any failure of the poles to line up with the strings
will be small enough that it can be compensated by adjusting the pole
height, so that either type could be used in either position.
Tony D

I guess you mean the other way round Tony, if it has narrow pole pieces it´ll be better for neck position and wider polepieces, better suited for bridge position. But if it´s a real super 70 it has narrow polepieces.
As Squier was telling you, the Super70 was an Ibanez copy of an old PAF. A great pickup that works well in both bridge and neck position.
BTW, i hope it measures about 8 Kilo ohms, if it only measures 8 ohms, i wouldn´t bother install it:-)

Peter

[GitFiddler]

Post by Tony Done

Post by GitFiddler
I've got one here in a box of stuff. Meters at 8 ohms exactly. What
are the characteristics of the Super 70s? Would this be a neck pup at
that ohm value? Or is that a matter of taste?

I don't know anything about that particular pickup, but if it is an old
Ibanez, I would assume it is good enough to be worth the effort of trying
out. You would generally use a lower output pickup at the neck than at the
bridge, so this could be used either as a PAF style bridge pickup, or as a
neck pickup with a hot bridge pickup.
Some pickups have/had different pole spacings for the neck and bridge. You
could check that by comparing them with, say, a modern Seymour Duncan, which
will have the same pole spacing for neck and bridge. If it has wider poles
it would be better as a neck pickup, if narrower, as a bridge pickup.
However, I think that any failure of the poles to line up with the strings
will be small enough that it can be compensated by adjusting the pole
height, so that either type could be used in either position.
Tony D

I guess you mean the other way round Tony, if it has narrow pole pieces it�ll be better for neck position and wider polepieces, better suited for bridge position. But if it�s a real super 70 it has narrow polepieces.
As Squier was telling you, the Super70 was an Ibanez copy of an old PAF. A great pickup that works well in both bridge and neck position.
BTW, i hope it measures about 8 Kilo ohms, if it only measures 8 ohms, i wouldn�t bother install it:-)
Peter

yes, kOhms! thanks, and great descriptions.

[Tony Done]

Post by Tony Done

Post by GitFiddler
I've got one here in a box of stuff. Meters at 8 ohms exactly. What
are the characteristics of the Super 70s? Would this be a neck pup at
that ohm value? Or is that a matter of taste?

I don't know anything about that particular pickup, but if it is an old
Ibanez, I would assume it is good enough to be worth the effort of trying
out. You would generally use a lower output pickup at the neck than at the
bridge, so this could be used either as a PAF style bridge pickup, or as a
neck pickup with a hot bridge pickup.
Some pickups have/had different pole spacings for the neck and bridge. You
could check that by comparing them with, say, a modern Seymour Duncan, which
will have the same pole spacing for neck and bridge. If it has wider poles
it would be better as a neck pickup, if narrower, as a bridge pickup.
However, I think that any failure of the poles to line up with the strings
will be small enough that it can be compensated by adjusting the pole
height, so that either type could be used in either position.
Tony D

I guess you mean the other way round Tony, if it has narrow pole pieces
itŽll be better for neck position and wider polepieces, better suited for
bridge position. But if itŽs a real super 70 it has narrow polepieces.
As Squier was telling you, the Super70 was an Ibanez copy of an old PAF. A
great pickup that works well in both bridge and neck position.
BTW, i hope it measures about 8 Kilo ohms, if it only measures 8 ohms, i
wouldnŽt bother install it:-)

Peter

<g> Oops, a couple of typos in there.

Disclaimer - ***All*** my posts have to be interpreted in the light of
possible senility-related errors. The absolute nonsense is easy to spot, but
some, such as the pole spacing mistake, is more subtle.

Tony D